tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post6408967142518307366..comments2023-09-29T04:00:21.951-07:00Comments on followspot: The Wizard of Ozfollowspothttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05390128032621439981noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-87675101740167214022009-07-31T16:51:51.907-07:002009-07-31T16:51:51.907-07:00No, actually not the end, at least as far the musi...No, actually not the end, at least as far the music goes. Wilcox was the arranger/orchestrator, not the composer. Harburg et al. still need their proper credit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-39216275769153139742009-07-31T08:23:51.685-07:002009-07-31T08:23:51.685-07:00From Wikipedia:
The Wizard of Oz was originally a...From Wikipedia:<br /><br />The Wizard of Oz was originally adapted for the stage in 1945 by Frank Gabrielson. It was produced for the St. Louis Municipal Opera. This version has its own script, but incorporated the film songs. There was even a solo written for Dorothy in the Emerald City called "Evening Star". In 1987 John Kane adapted it for the Royal Shakespeare Company. The script Steve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-53476976446196826592009-07-30T17:09:09.055-07:002009-07-30T17:09:09.055-07:00This conversation is a perfect example of what hap...This conversation is a perfect example of what happens when the suits get in the way of the arts.<br /><br />It's the goddamn Wizard of Oz. It's a play based on the movie everyone's seen based on the book everyone's read. Most of the dialogue is taken verbatim from the movie. So who should be credited...the guy who transcribed the movie and added a couple lines? The Jaded Devilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03374966566406197136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-8533552598493520272009-07-27T20:42:04.141-07:002009-07-27T20:42:04.141-07:00I have seen said royalty contract stipulating bio ...I have seen said royalty contract stipulating bio in program, and on other occasions, I've also had guest playwrights very peeved when they noticed we overlooked their bio, forcing us (me) to sheepishly rush to Kinko's for some last minute stuffers.<br /><br />And, yes, since then I have included bios for even the dead ones, to spare myself the hauntings. (I don't know why you would Cougarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-3901462042657302392009-07-27T19:18:17.816-07:002009-07-27T19:18:17.816-07:00You may not have seen it, but it's part of a s...You may not have seen it, but it's part of a standard Dramatists Guild of America contract. And it's a sign of due respect and courtesy to the author, without which, actors would nothing to say.Steve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-90748658383848272572009-07-27T15:57:13.439-07:002009-07-27T15:57:13.439-07:00I've never seen a royalty contract with a requ...I've never seen a royalty contract with a requirement for there to be a playwright's bio in the program.<br /><br />If its considered part of their compensation, surely it should be in the contract?The Wiseguynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-21460074641854596712009-07-27T14:30:54.677-07:002009-07-27T14:30:54.677-07:00Follow-Up on Followspot and the author's bios ...Follow-Up on Followspot and the author's bios question....<br /><br />In consultation with the Dramatists Guild, author's bylines on publicity and bios in their programs are considered part of their compensation, and should be included for all authors, living or dead.<br /><br />A word to the wiseguy....<br /><br />SteveSteve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-49700507147463802682009-07-27T10:53:20.781-07:002009-07-27T10:53:20.781-07:00Thanks for the clarification, NCP.
As to bios in ...Thanks for the clarification, NCP.<br /><br />As to bios in the program, unless such credits are stipulated in the contract, they are, indeed, up to the theatre. For a very famous author, however, theatres frequently include dramaturgical information about, say, how Shakespeare came to write "Hamlet" rather than a formal bio. For playwrights who are still living and writing, most Steve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-80585455498072110582009-07-27T00:24:02.751-07:002009-07-27T00:24:02.751-07:00Hello,
I want to add some clarification regarding...Hello,<br /><br />I want to add some clarification regarding the "lack of credit" on the website.<br /><br />As a very small (and due to the licensing for this production, currently underfunded) community theatre, we all do what we do because we enjoy it, and we politely step through the legal hoops in order to do so. This production is properly licensed with royalties paid, and all NCP Webmasterhttp://newcenturyplayers.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-86600222518405474632009-07-27T00:16:14.700-07:002009-07-27T00:16:14.700-07:00Are you seriously proposing writing a bio for Shak...Are you seriously proposing writing a bio for Shakespeare in the program?<br /><br />Bear in mind, most theaters I've worked for, you submit your bio yourself, or it doesn't go in.<br /><br />I don't think Willy will be getting back to me.<br /><br />I don't know about this bio issue - do you need to put a bio in for a playwright who isn't directly involved in the production?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-73279516325912517322009-07-26T19:48:55.447-07:002009-07-26T19:48:55.447-07:00Yikes. You're away for a few days and come bac...Yikes. You're away for a few days and come back to the damndest things.<br /><br />I never meant for anyone to interpret my comments to say this production was performing outside of contract, and I think it's a leap to assume they are, since none of us knows what's in the contract except the company and their licenser. Frequently, licensing contracts include language regarding creditsSteve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-2019561974073507862009-07-26T12:06:58.478-07:002009-07-26T12:06:58.478-07:00Shut up and move on? I am new to blogging so corre...Shut up and move on? I am new to blogging so correct me if I am wrong....Isn't the whole point of blogging to have discussion and wouldn't shutting up be counterproductive on a blog site? Personally - I love community theatre for the audiences it is intended for: the little old ladies who love to see the young people perform, the families with five kids who can only afford to expose theirGymnasiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03847850301618110573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-48831795300055015402009-07-25T23:52:09.256-07:002009-07-25T23:52:09.256-07:00No one no where on this thread had said that this ...No one no where on this thread had said that this production was illegal...so no need to jump to conclusions and create argument for the sake of argument. So frankly - shut up and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-72413616645914594952009-07-25T17:51:30.339-07:002009-07-25T17:51:30.339-07:00I personally don't see anyone picking on this ...I personally don't see anyone picking on this particular company. I do see some awfully defensive answers. Things need to be done legally, and it's always smart in a properly licensed production to list the licensor everywhere--on PR releases, on the website, on the program and on the poster. As Mr. Tobias Andersen has been saying on a very spirited debate on PDXBackstage about pay forAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-70048824380927982712009-07-25T10:51:17.357-07:002009-07-25T10:51:17.357-07:00Thanks Theresa! Being an all volunteer company, w...Thanks Theresa! Being an all volunteer company, we don't always have the man power to keep up with everything....we're just trying our best. Our volunteer (and just learning) webmaster will be sure to follow through the next time around. I'm sure he wasn't aware of how important all of this was. In the meantime, the rest of us are just trying to keep up with the cast/crew/Kelleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-13716022836760446502009-07-25T10:22:04.502-07:002009-07-25T10:22:04.502-07:00I am uncertain regarding the point of this thread....I am uncertain regarding the point of this thread. While people have valid points regarding information they would like to see on websites (such as actors' names), proper crediting, and contract administration, to pick on this one theatre company and to imply it's due to lack of professionalism, when I've seen few companies rigorously follow these guidelines seems unfair. If people theresanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-52033460058332134692009-07-25T10:09:29.318-07:002009-07-25T10:09:29.318-07:00I completely and wholeheartedly agree with Anon 7/...I completely and wholeheartedly agree with Anon 7/24 6 p.m., and also wonder if New Century realizes that, if this is like any other Tams-Witmark contract I personally have signed, they are *required* to post credits and the fact that it's licensed by Tams-Witmark on their website!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-31641598983664861652009-07-25T08:18:45.831-07:002009-07-25T08:18:45.831-07:00My personal experience (more with MTI than with T-...My personal experience (more with MTI than with T-W) is that the licensing contract specifically mentions how credits are to be listed, not only on posters, programs, etc., but press releases as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-30061445659559514172009-07-24T18:00:22.731-07:002009-07-24T18:00:22.731-07:00Kelley, you are absolutely right about the fact th...Kelley, you are absolutely right about the fact that what blogs like Followspot and other various publicity sources elect to publish about your production are beyond your control. But New Century's own website, which I can only logically assume is within your company's scope of influence, lacks all of this information as well. <br /><br />Without knowing which adaptation is being Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-55841814657342317042009-07-24T15:27:30.909-07:002009-07-24T15:27:30.909-07:00Kelley makes a good point - blogs and other theatr...Kelley makes a good point - blogs and other theatre listings don't list the entire info that a theatre company sends out.followspothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05390128032621439981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-83658878156032406332009-07-24T15:23:36.071-07:002009-07-24T15:23:36.071-07:00We are properly licensed and I take offense that i...We are properly licensed and I take offense that it is insinuated that we are not. In fact, every dime of the royalties and rentals along with the total cost of the production may put us under financially. The fact that ALL of our press release and ALL the information on our postcards, postcards, programs...etc. is not posted on a blog overview where only a partial summary is taken out is not Kelleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-53238936839279823762009-07-24T11:05:26.678-07:002009-07-24T11:05:26.678-07:00Good heavens!
New Century Players Community Thea...Good heavens! <br /><br />New Century Players Community Theater's production of THE WIZARD OF OZ is properly licensed. Tams Witmark knows all about us. <br /><br />We also have all our 501 (c) 3 papers in order, our treasurer is a CPA with 30 years of experience, and our rabies shots are up to date. <br /><br />Thank you for your concern.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250760380638039035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-59495718970565720282009-07-23T22:35:47.919-07:002009-07-23T22:35:47.919-07:00If this is a properly licensed production, there s...If this is a properly licensed production, there should be requirements as to how everyone is credited. My hunch is this is not a properly licensed production. You do know that Harburg's family lives in Portland, don't you? There was a big article on them in The Oregonian a year or two ago. If you haven't licensed this property legally, I think you'd better get on that post Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-1971305695593811902009-07-23T14:46:36.732-07:002009-07-23T14:46:36.732-07:00Hmm. Sounds a little tricky, all right. Maybe some...Hmm. Sounds a little tricky, all right. Maybe something like, "From the Royal Shakespeare Theatre adaptation of L. Frank Baum's book." It's unwieldy, I know, and doesn't get everyone in there. But, you know, we may think everybody knows L. Frank Baum's the author, but we still list Shakespeare when we present Hamlet (in his case, he often gets first billing). GuidelinesSteve Pattersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588201067230147903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7524728.post-12180748260342565582009-07-23T13:44:37.882-07:002009-07-23T13:44:37.882-07:00You are absolutely right about the playwright bein...You are absolutely right about the playwright being credited. Normally, it's right there after the title, where it should be.<br /><br />In this case, it wasn't so easy. The original book is by L. Frank Baum, the adaptation by John Kane, and this is the Royal Shakespeare Company's version by an unnamed person or persons. <br /><br />Then there's the music: the familiar music and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com